> The pipeline (bottom) shows how diverse OpenImages inputs are edited
using Nano-Banana and quality-filtered by Gemini-2.5-Pro, with failed attempts automatically retried.
Pretty interesting. I run a fairly comprehensive image-comparison site for SOTA generative AI in text-to-image and editing. Managing it manually got pretty tiring, so a while back I put together a small program that takes a given starting prompt, a list of GenAI models, and a max number of retries which does something similar.
It generates and evaluates images using a separate multimodal AI, and then rewrites failed prompts automatically repeating up to a set limit.
It's not perfect (nine pointed star example in particular) - but often times the "recognition aspect of a multimodal model" is superior to its generative capabilities so you can run it in a sort of REPL until you get the desired outcome.
Recently I've found myself getting the evaluation simultaneously from to OpenAI gpt-5, Gemini 2.5 Pro, and Qwen3 VL to give it a kind of "voting system". Purely anecdotal but I do find that Gemini is the most consistent of the three.
I am running similar experiment but so far, changing the seed of openai seems to give similar results. Which if that confirms, is concerning to me on how sensitive it could be
Thanks! It's probably the same site. It used to only be a showdown of text-to-image models (Flux, Imagen, Midjourney, etc), but once there was a decent number of image-to-image models (Kontext, Seedream, Nano-Banana) I added a nav bar at the top so I could do similar comparisons for image editing.
The license is CC BY-NC-ND - I’m not sure who is going to be able to use it given the NC-ND part… especially given the potential uncertainty over what uses count as commercial and what counts as derivative works. OTOH, given the bulk of this dataset is AI outputs, its copyrightability is an open question.
> CC-BY-NC-ND or Creative Commons Attribution NonCommercial NoDerivs, is the most restrictive license offered by Creative Commons. With this license, the user (while attributing the original creator) can only share the work but not change it in any way or ever use it commercially.
They're distilling Nano Banana with a Google dataset, letting anyone more easily build and test their own systems. It's kind of funny how easy this is to do.
"You wouldn't steal a car," but anyone can distill an expensive, fully trained model in order to build their own.
This is going to be one of the most important categories of image model. It's good that we have more than Google and the Chinese (ByteDance, et al) with competent editing models. I don't think Flux Kontext is keeping up.
It'd be really nice if we had a Nano Banana-calibur model as open source.
I confess that I don't quite get the point here - is it just that they've paid the inference costs for a dataset than can be used for distillation/other research?
Essentially yes, it’s a data set that can help train or fine tune another model or similar research. From the site:
> Pico-Banana-400K serves as a versatile resource for advancing controllable and instruction-aware image editing.
Beyond single-step editing, the dataset enables multi-turn, conversational editing and reward-based training paradigms.
Looks like the dataset is distilled from Gemini nano-banana
Definitely very useful, but I’m so curious how the original datasets from these image editing models were created. I’m guessing a lot of it is synthetic data to construct scenes programmatically with layers
Another glaring giveaway is the over use of numbered lists and bullet point lists.
Personally it makes me less likely to read it but the content might be useful. I have some general tech interest but am not overwhelmingly interested in the subject. Sometimes good things crop up on HN too.
Now, if an author was writing for an audience with the intention to attract the interest of people who were not enthusiasts to become enthusiasts of their product they would create something readable and attractive. The LLM hasn't here.
Together, this leads me to think that the readme is not for me but is just for dedicated enthusiasts.
> What if I took a swim in a typical spent nuclear fuel pool? Would I need to dive to actually experience a fatal amount of radiation? How long could I stay safely at the surface?
> Assuming you’re a reasonably good swimmer, you could probably survive treading water anywhere from 10 to 40 hours. At that point, you would black out from fatigue and drown. This is also true for a pool without nuclear fuel in the bottom.
From the paper
> The pipeline (bottom) shows how diverse OpenImages inputs are edited using Nano-Banana and quality-filtered by Gemini-2.5-Pro, with failed attempts automatically retried.
Pretty interesting. I run a fairly comprehensive image-comparison site for SOTA generative AI in text-to-image and editing. Managing it manually got pretty tiring, so a while back I put together a small program that takes a given starting prompt, a list of GenAI models, and a max number of retries which does something similar.
It generates and evaluates images using a separate multimodal AI, and then rewrites failed prompts automatically repeating up to a set limit.
It's not perfect (nine pointed star example in particular) - but often times the "recognition aspect of a multimodal model" is superior to its generative capabilities so you can run it in a sort of REPL until you get the desired outcome.
https://genai-showdown.specr.net/image-editing
What do you use for evaluation? gemini-2.5-pro is at the top of MMLU and has been best for me but always looking for better.
Recently I've found myself getting the evaluation simultaneously from to OpenAI gpt-5, Gemini 2.5 Pro, and Qwen3 VL to give it a kind of "voting system". Purely anecdotal but I do find that Gemini is the most consistent of the three.
I am running similar experiment but so far, changing the seed of openai seems to give similar results. Which if that confirms, is concerning to me on how sensitive it could be
Interesting, I'll give voting a shot, thanks.
I love your site I stumble across it once a month it seems.
Or there's another very similar site. But I'm pretty sure it's yours
Thanks! It's probably the same site. It used to only be a showdown of text-to-image models (Flux, Imagen, Midjourney, etc), but once there was a decent number of image-to-image models (Kontext, Seedream, Nano-Banana) I added a nav bar at the top so I could do similar comparisons for image editing.
Yes that was exactly it.
How often do you update it? It seems like something new every time I check. Or I forget everything..
The license is CC BY-NC-ND - I’m not sure who is going to be able to use it given the NC-ND part… especially given the potential uncertainty over what uses count as commercial and what counts as derivative works. OTOH, given the bulk of this dataset is AI outputs, its copyrightability is an open question.
> CC-BY-NC-ND or Creative Commons Attribution NonCommercial NoDerivs, is the most restrictive license offered by Creative Commons. With this license, the user (while attributing the original creator) can only share the work but not change it in any way or ever use it commercially.
I find caring about a licence for an LLM highly ironic.
Can it be? Has Apple FINALLY joined the party? Very ironic they are using an open dataset from Google... and Gemini for prompts by Google.
I'm happy to see something from Apple but this seems so low-tech that it could be one of my own local ComfyUI workflows.
They're distilling Nano Banana with a Google dataset, letting anyone more easily build and test their own systems. It's kind of funny how easy this is to do.
"You wouldn't steal a car," but anyone can distill an expensive, fully trained model in order to build their own.
This is going to be one of the most important categories of image model. It's good that we have more than Google and the Chinese (ByteDance, et al) with competent editing models. I don't think Flux Kontext is keeping up.
It'd be really nice if we had a Nano Banana-calibur model as open source.
I confess that I don't quite get the point here - is it just that they've paid the inference costs for a dataset than can be used for distillation/other research?
Essentially yes, it’s a data set that can help train or fine tune another model or similar research. From the site:
> Pico-Banana-400K serves as a versatile resource for advancing controllable and instruction-aware image editing. Beyond single-step editing, the dataset enables multi-turn, conversational editing and reward-based training paradigms.
Looks like the dataset is distilled from Gemini nano-banana
Definitely very useful, but I’m so curious how the original datasets from these image editing models were created. I’m guessing a lot of it is synthetic data to construct scenes programmatically with layers
Maybe it is only me, but all the emojis in the readme look like AI wrote it and instantly make stop reading it ...
Another glaring giveaway is the over use of numbered lists and bullet point lists.
Personally it makes me less likely to read it but the content might be useful. I have some general tech interest but am not overwhelmingly interested in the subject. Sometimes good things crop up on HN too.
Now, if an author was writing for an audience with the intention to attract the interest of people who were not enthusiasts to become enthusiasts of their product they would create something readable and attractive. The LLM hasn't here.
Together, this leads me to think that the readme is not for me but is just for dedicated enthusiasts.
Really cool - looking to Apple to lead the on-device AI space in short order...
Relevant from Randall Munroe https://what-if.xkcd.com/29/
> What if I took a swim in a typical spent nuclear fuel pool? Would I need to dive to actually experience a fatal amount of radiation? How long could I stay safely at the surface?
> Assuming you’re a reasonably good swimmer, you could probably survive treading water anywhere from 10 to 40 hours. At that point, you would black out from fatigue and drown. This is also true for a pool without nuclear fuel in the bottom.
You meant to comment on this post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45708292
Shit thank you
Ok, but why did they call the model Micro-Penis-400k?