I type in two languages and very frequently I don't notice that I am on the wrong layout, so I get a full line of gibberish before I notice. Got annoyed enough to build something.
It keeps the right language ready per app and per browser tab, and if you mess up you double-tap Shift and it fixes the last thing you typed.
I know layout switchers aren't new. The thing I couldn't find is that it remembers the language per browser tab and per chat on Teams (I work with a mix of English and Hebrew speakers), not just per app, so it sets the right one before you start typing. And when it still gets it wrong you fix it with one shortcut instead of letting an auto-detector guess for you.
It's free (pay what you want) and everything stays local, no account. Not pushing anything, I just want to know if it's useful and what's missing.
I'd appreciate any feedback!!
Site's here (with a demo...) : https://flickey.site
Thank you! I remember in my country we had the same app for DOS (before those things were called apps) and it was awesome! Forgotten how convenient that it is to not think about switching layouts.
Considering half of the time layout switch somehow does not do anything on the first press.
This is super neat for polyglots (of which I'm not one, yet) but one little thing: My partner immediately flagged that your demo (EN->HB) flips the cursor to be in the LTR position in the run rather than the RTL one.
The most minor of things, but I now can't unsee it.
I type in 4 languages on my Mac (en/hu/de/ro) and 7 on my iPhone (+ru/cn/fr)
So I guess I'm pretty much the perfect audience here.
Every time I code I get mildly enraged by having typed é or ö instead of a semicolon.
Will definitely give this a go.
I really like the (lack of a) business model, too, I hope some people will appreciate your efforts. This was probably my favourite bit. All these small apps that somehow need to figure out an extra feature just so that they can upsell. I get it, but it's still annoying.
This ones gives off the goold old vibes of "I scratched my own itch and I'm sharing".
I wonder how dramatic it is within latin languages. as you mentioned on macOS you only use latin typesets. For those things most annoying are spelling mess ups, but I mostly use English keyboard and long press when I need to write things like papanaşi (ro) or buñuelos (es). (but I get those red dotted lines).
A lot depends on using a national keyboard. I use ABC - Extended as my default keyboard and turn off long press because I don’t like it, since I’d rather type ş with opt-c s and ñ with opt-n n (I’d say I type maybe 85% English, 14% Spanish and 1% Czech or Slovene), but some people prefer national keyboards for non-English which make diacriticalized letters more ergonomic at the expense of making some punctuation or symbols less accessible (I was just talking with my ex-wife who writes a lot more Spanish than I do about convenient/inconvenient keyboard layout changes—she uses the globe key switching which I avoid because like long press, I don’t like it, especially since I use it often as a fn key and the other functionality often get triggered by mistake until I disabled it).
It takes some getting used to, e.g. ö used in both Hungarian and German is in two different places for the two languages.
I do ctrl-space a lot, but very rarely use the long press feature, mainly because depending on the active keyboard, the numbers to press are different and it hinders me from being able to type blindly.
Long press on the iPhone used to (maybe still does?) omit ý on the long press for y and I think some other uncommon Czech diacriticals and I had to add a Czech keyboard to type those, but the other changes around that keyboard were really annoying and I would occasionally switch to it inadvertently causing weird autocorrect issues.
I just wanted macOS to detect if my bluetooth keyboard is connected or not, and change the keyboard layout according to that, considering that they have different layouts.
Windows system has a "Let me use a different input method for each app window" setting, and I really miss that after switching to Mac. Glad that someone finally made it. Nice website design by the way, I guess it's from some AI?
Awesome! Been looking for something like this for so long, thanks so much for making it!
Tried it and it seems to work for the most part, but one app where it would be really helpful to me is Ghostty.app, specifically the quick-terminal, and it seems that it doesn't currently handle that, which is unfortunate.
Interesting, I would have expected macOS to have this feature because Windows has supported window-specific keyboard layouts for what feels like forever. I don't use my Mac much nowadays, but gonna have to grab this just in case.
I acquired a keyboard for a language I’m learning and was disappointed that I couldn’t physically switch my hands between keyboards to use the other’s layout. I thought the computer would be smarter, mais non.
Huh, an idea would be physical buttons that a program listens to, and when you hit the key, the program sends a message to the OS to switch the keyboard layout to a particular one. So an Elgato Stream Deck or Razer Stream Controller.
So you'd have a button for each keyboard layout, and you'd just have to form the habit of smashing the key for e.g. Russian before typing a message in Russian.
For a more complicated solution, I suppose it'd be possible to detect which USB device sent a signal, and use this to detect which keyboard you're using. Maybe there'd need to be a workaround, like hitting Caps Lock on and off so the app has time to react and change the OS keyboard layout, before you type.
I’ve mapped Caps Lock to EN and Shift + Caps Lock to RU. Really stopped thinking about “what keyboard layout is on rn”, just subconsciously press Caps every time I start typing something in English. Pretty easy to replicate with Karabiner on macOS (and on Linux it’s supported out of the box).
I’ve noticed that Apple does a pretty good job of detecting when I switch between English and Spanish typing on my Mac. On my phone/iPad it tends to defer to the keyboard (I have a default English/Spanish keyboard I use the most, but I have a few others that I use less often, most notably French, which I seem to occasionally switch to without noticing and then get weird autocorrects of my writing into nearish French words. Not as bad as some of the odd texts I’ll get from my ex-wife when she dictates something in English while her phone is expecting Spanish though.
Generally speaking, it feels like there just aren't enough features for multilingual users on any major operating system. Fast virtual keyboard switching is nice on iOS, but basically everywhere else, it's hard as a bi- or trilingual user.
So many times do I want live subtitles in multiple languages, at least two, simultaneously. Or vision capabilities to view something without translating a whole block of a UI or a webpage so I can read through missing intermediate to advanced vocabulary or typically native turns of phrase.
Language support basically everywhere feels like it's implemented by Americans who can't speak anything else besides English, and look at products as things that only monolingual users use.
This has been my only serious complaint about the Mac for 20 years and fixed it with my first vibe Mac app a year ago: https://gitlab.com/spacest/InputLanguageKeeper (no keylogging)
Does this app fix Spotlight getting current language instead of system default?
Wow! I didn't think anyone on the mac cared about this. It was one of many annoyances that keeps me off that platform.
On Windows, there's a setting under "Advanced keyboard settings” called “Let me use a different input method for each app window.”
I can keep this turned on and if I'm writing a document in Word in עברית and I have my broswer open in English, I can switch back and forth and not have to hit WIN+SPACE to swap lanaguages.
Don't give it internet access if you're worried about keylogging. Seems like a complete non-issue if you take any responsibility for your own security at all.
I type in two languages and very frequently I don't notice that I am on the wrong layout, so I get a full line of gibberish before I notice. Got annoyed enough to build something. It keeps the right language ready per app and per browser tab, and if you mess up you double-tap Shift and it fixes the last thing you typed. I know layout switchers aren't new. The thing I couldn't find is that it remembers the language per browser tab and per chat on Teams (I work with a mix of English and Hebrew speakers), not just per app, so it sets the right one before you start typing. And when it still gets it wrong you fix it with one shortcut instead of letting an auto-detector guess for you. It's free (pay what you want) and everything stays local, no account. Not pushing anything, I just want to know if it's useful and what's missing. I'd appreciate any feedback!! Site's here (with a demo...) : https://flickey.site
Thank you! I remember in my country we had the same app for DOS (before those things were called apps) and it was awesome! Forgotten how convenient that it is to not think about switching layouts.
Considering half of the time layout switch somehow does not do anything on the first press.
This is super neat for polyglots (of which I'm not one, yet) but one little thing: My partner immediately flagged that your demo (EN->HB) flips the cursor to be in the LTR position in the run rather than the RTL one.
The most minor of things, but I now can't unsee it.
I type in 4 languages on my Mac (en/hu/de/ro) and 7 on my iPhone (+ru/cn/fr)
So I guess I'm pretty much the perfect audience here.
Every time I code I get mildly enraged by having typed é or ö instead of a semicolon.
Will definitely give this a go.
I really like the (lack of a) business model, too, I hope some people will appreciate your efforts. This was probably my favourite bit. All these small apps that somehow need to figure out an extra feature just so that they can upsell. I get it, but it's still annoying.
This ones gives off the goold old vibes of "I scratched my own itch and I'm sharing".
Appreciate it!
I wonder how dramatic it is within latin languages. as you mentioned on macOS you only use latin typesets. For those things most annoying are spelling mess ups, but I mostly use English keyboard and long press when I need to write things like papanaşi (ro) or buñuelos (es). (but I get those red dotted lines).
A lot depends on using a national keyboard. I use ABC - Extended as my default keyboard and turn off long press because I don’t like it, since I’d rather type ş with opt-c s and ñ with opt-n n (I’d say I type maybe 85% English, 14% Spanish and 1% Czech or Slovene), but some people prefer national keyboards for non-English which make diacriticalized letters more ergonomic at the expense of making some punctuation or symbols less accessible (I was just talking with my ex-wife who writes a lot more Spanish than I do about convenient/inconvenient keyboard layout changes—she uses the globe key switching which I avoid because like long press, I don’t like it, especially since I use it often as a fn key and the other functionality often get triggered by mistake until I disabled it).
It takes some getting used to, e.g. ö used in both Hungarian and German is in two different places for the two languages.
I do ctrl-space a lot, but very rarely use the long press feature, mainly because depending on the active keyboard, the numbers to press are different and it hinders me from being able to type blindly.
Edit: I adore papanași.
My pet peeve with Gboard on Android is that long press does not work for Hungarian duuble-acute letters (ő and ű).
Long press on the iPhone used to (maybe still does?) omit ý on the long press for y and I think some other uncommon Czech diacriticals and I had to add a Czech keyboard to type those, but the other changes around that keyboard were really annoying and I would occasionally switch to it inadvertently causing weird autocorrect issues.
Punto Switcher for the new era!
It works well for EN->RU, but not really for EN->CN (or RU->CN).
the sound is forever etched in my mind; right next to ie with 12 bars, winamp and #008080
I just wanted macOS to detect if my bluetooth keyboard is connected or not, and change the keyboard layout according to that, considering that they have different layouts.
Windows system has a "Let me use a different input method for each app window" setting, and I really miss that after switching to Mac. Glad that someone finally made it. Nice website design by the way, I guess it's from some AI?
Awesome! Been looking for something like this for so long, thanks so much for making it!
Tried it and it seems to work for the most part, but one app where it would be really helpful to me is Ghostty.app, specifically the quick-terminal, and it seems that it doesn't currently handle that, which is unfortunate.
Interesting, I would have expected macOS to have this feature because Windows has supported window-specific keyboard layouts for what feels like forever. I don't use my Mac much nowadays, but gonna have to grab this just in case.
Yeah I want this.
I acquired a keyboard for a language I’m learning and was disappointed that I couldn’t physically switch my hands between keyboards to use the other’s layout. I thought the computer would be smarter, mais non.
Huh, an idea would be physical buttons that a program listens to, and when you hit the key, the program sends a message to the OS to switch the keyboard layout to a particular one. So an Elgato Stream Deck or Razer Stream Controller.
So you'd have a button for each keyboard layout, and you'd just have to form the habit of smashing the key for e.g. Russian before typing a message in Russian.
For a more complicated solution, I suppose it'd be possible to detect which USB device sent a signal, and use this to detect which keyboard you're using. Maybe there'd need to be a workaround, like hitting Caps Lock on and off so the app has time to react and change the OS keyboard layout, before you type.
I’ve mapped Caps Lock to EN and Shift + Caps Lock to RU. Really stopped thinking about “what keyboard layout is on rn”, just subconsciously press Caps every time I start typing something in English. Pretty easy to replicate with Karabiner on macOS (and on Linux it’s supported out of the box).
If you really want a dedicated keyboard though yeah, would be a bit harder but might be possible to do something with Karabiner as well. The device_if condition might work here: https://karabiner-elements.pqrs.org/docs/json/complex-modifi...
Edit: this might work but I haven’t tried:
I asked Google Gemini to write me an AutoHotkey script to do the Caps Lock / Shift Caps Lock for layout 1 or 2 respectively, it works well!
autokbisw solved the per-physical keyboard layout problem for me, switching between the Macbook's layout, a US keyboard, and a UK keyboard.
Clever! For bonus points, fix my typing when my hands are misaligned by one letter. :)
Haha always wanted this, happens to me all the time. Apple Intelligence should be doing this automatically one day.
I’ve noticed that Apple does a pretty good job of detecting when I switch between English and Spanish typing on my Mac. On my phone/iPad it tends to defer to the keyboard (I have a default English/Spanish keyboard I use the most, but I have a few others that I use less often, most notably French, which I seem to occasionally switch to without noticing and then get weird autocorrects of my writing into nearish French words. Not as bad as some of the odd texts I’ll get from my ex-wife when she dictates something in English while her phone is expecting Spanish though.
Generally speaking, it feels like there just aren't enough features for multilingual users on any major operating system. Fast virtual keyboard switching is nice on iOS, but basically everywhere else, it's hard as a bi- or trilingual user.
So many times do I want live subtitles in multiple languages, at least two, simultaneously. Or vision capabilities to view something without translating a whole block of a UI or a webpage so I can read through missing intermediate to advanced vocabulary or typically native turns of phrase.
Language support basically everywhere feels like it's implemented by Americans who can't speak anything else besides English, and look at products as things that only monolingual users use.
Single-layout physical keyboards, etc.
>So many times do I want live subtitles in multiple languages, at least two, simultaneously.
I'm curious, what's your use-case for this?
Being a multilingual person.
I’m a multilingual person too and it never occurred to me to want this, and I’m still not sure why I would.
I’m curious, tell me why you (want to) use this!
I don’t know what more you want out of my statement. I can speak multiple languages, I don’t know all of the vocabulary or expressions in all of them.
There’s nothing more there.
Oh, this is a great idea! I've never realised that the keyboard layout I want correlates with the active app quite a lot!
Can we get per-team Slack support?
And an option to set the layout for all the Xcode versions, including the ones that will be installed in the future (using https://xcodes.app/)
Also, it doesn't seem to work with iTerm2 for me.
Is it just site vibe-coded or the whole thing?
What did you make today and give away for free?
This has been my only serious complaint about the Mac for 20 years and fixed it with my first vibe Mac app a year ago: https://gitlab.com/spacest/InputLanguageKeeper (no keylogging) Does this app fix Spotlight getting current language instead of system default?
Wow! I didn't think anyone on the mac cared about this. It was one of many annoyances that keeps me off that platform.
On Windows, there's a setting under "Advanced keyboard settings” called “Let me use a different input method for each app window.”
I can keep this turned on and if I'm writing a document in Word in עברית and I have my broswer open in English, I can switch back and forth and not have to hit WIN+SPACE to swap lanaguages.
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This seems like a giant security issue.
Just like any other app asking for accessibility permissions, no?
Don't give it internet access if you're worried about keylogging. Seems like a complete non-issue if you take any responsibility for your own security at all.
I mean yeah it is basically a keylogger, it's closed source, and it was made by a guy in Israel. I would not install it on my machine.